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I stumbled upon it through this twitter by this chick calling Brendon and Spencer liars and thieves and other such nonsense, and I am confused as all hell.
I'm trying to figure out how Ryan could have seen things differently. The very first post, written by him and Jon and put up on the official website on July 6th said VERY CLEARLY that Spencer and Brendon were remaining as Panic at the Disco and that all tour dates would go on as planned. In several of the MTV articles with Ryan throughout July of 2009, Brendon and Spencer are referred to, by the interviewer and Ryan as "New Panic!" Just one of the mentions: "He said that while he hasn't heard any of the new Panic! stuff, he wishes Urie and Smith well"
Supposing that Ryan hadn't known, and considering the antagonistic and less than friendly vibe of those interviews, why wouldn't he have brought it up then? I am really uncomfortably with the fact that he's bringing it up *now*. Because even if it is true, it comes off and petty and dishonest and I don't know how to deal with that.
I've been reminded, too, of how immature Ryan was about the whole thing, re-reading these articles. How he said he was avoiding talking to anyone at Decaydance and not answering Wentz's calls. It makes me think if he honestly didn't know bout Brendon and Spencer taking the name it WAS HIS OWN FAULT. There are a lot of questions about this sort of thing when a band splits, and if Ryan wasn't *talking* to people from the label, how could he expect to know about the decisions that were being made.
It's weird, because for the first time in a long time, I'm not angry toward Ryan. I guess I can believe that there was some miscommunication (in that he refused to communicate with Decaydance and Pete), but I feel that it is really inappropriate and immature for him to say this now.
I stumbled upon it through this twitter by this chick calling Brendon and Spencer liars and thieves and other such nonsense, and I am confused as all hell.
I'm trying to figure out how Ryan could have seen things differently. The very first post, written by him and Jon and put up on the official website on July 6th said VERY CLEARLY that Spencer and Brendon were remaining as Panic at the Disco and that all tour dates would go on as planned. In several of the MTV articles with Ryan throughout July of 2009, Brendon and Spencer are referred to, by the interviewer and Ryan as "New Panic!" Just one of the mentions: "He said that while he hasn't heard any of the new Panic! stuff, he wishes Urie and Smith well"
Supposing that Ryan hadn't known, and considering the antagonistic and less than friendly vibe of those interviews, why wouldn't he have brought it up then? I am really uncomfortably with the fact that he's bringing it up *now*. Because even if it is true, it comes off and petty and dishonest and I don't know how to deal with that.
I've been reminded, too, of how immature Ryan was about the whole thing, re-reading these articles. How he said he was avoiding talking to anyone at Decaydance and not answering Wentz's calls. It makes me think if he honestly didn't know bout Brendon and Spencer taking the name it WAS HIS OWN FAULT. There are a lot of questions about this sort of thing when a band splits, and if Ryan wasn't *talking* to people from the label, how could he expect to know about the decisions that were being made.
It's weird, because for the first time in a long time, I'm not angry toward Ryan. I guess I can believe that there was some miscommunication (in that he refused to communicate with Decaydance and Pete), but I feel that it is really inappropriate and immature for him to say this now.
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Date: 2010-04-14 11:44 pm (UTC)anyway I'm just going to post what I said on another comment (forgive my english, I hope everything is clear XD)
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Andy is saying that Panic songs would clash with their style and with what they're doing, or something like that. Or else they would have played some of them, he said... (maybe Ryan can, I mean when I was a teenager I followed Take That - I know, I know, haha - and then Robbie Williams left, but he still sang some of their songs during his shows).
I want Panic to keep going and I want to hear these songs forever, so I'm glad that someone at least is keeping them. ;)
Maybe it was just miscommunication, I'm sure it was (even if I find so absurd that Ryan didn't understand that Spencer wanted to go on :/ EDIT TO ADD: how is this possible?? As you said, it was just so.. obvious from the start!). But since Ryan and Jon didn't want the Band anymore, anyway, I think it's right that someone, who instead did want it, could go on... instead to see it dead. I mean why not brendon and spencer?
Then I've read on a community that they should have paid some penalties or such to the label... (and they would have caused Pete an heart attack, lol)
I just hope Jon and Ryan will stop talking about it, they seem happy so why don't they let this go :( I'm just tired to hear things, my heart can't take it :S I know that they're not friends now, I just hope things will be okay in the future, but for now I need a break and at least I want to know that they're all doing what makes them happy, fuck the past :(
sorry I talked too much, I couldn't stop XD
ps and yes i didn't like the interview much, either... it's just that I love ryan and jon, but I'm a little biased for spencer and brendon, I just love them so much more XD Can't do anything about it, lol
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That's what I think. And as you said, I mean why now... o___o I'm so confused.
edit to add again: And I'd love to hear what spencer and brendon have to say about this now, I'd love for them to have the chance to speak or say their side of the story. It's like.. i don't know, I feel as they can't "defend" themselves this way, but maybe it's just me.:(
edit to add 3, then I'll stop promise lol
The other sad thing is that I'm really trying to love them ALL, and it's sad to see fandom people fighting and bitching at each other :( I hope this will stop, again
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Date: 2010-04-15 12:53 am (UTC)And yeah, I'm sad about this, too, because I was just getting to a place where I was happy and excited about Ryan Ross's face again, and now...well, it's starting to slip...
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:57 am (UTC)I don't like it. :( But I think they won't mention it, I don't know if it's good or bad.
yeah, for me too... I was okay with everything and now, it starts again... :(